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 4/24/2007 10:36:44 PM
BillZebub
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The Worst Horror Movie Ever Made may be re-shot
I am thinking about filming a new version of the discontinued title, "The Worst Horror Movie Ever Made."  If you had seen the first one, I would like to know if you supoprt the idea to film this thing again.  Well, this time it will have a budget.  (The original was shot with no props/effects budget to help make the move more cheesy). 

Of course, the script is getting re-vamped.  What were some things you liked in the first version?  What are some things that should be cut?
 4/24/2007 11:22:20 PM
DeadAlive
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Re: The Worst Horror Movie Ever Made may be re-shot
I think this is a good idea. I am going to be brutally honest about WHMEM (because what kind of a fan would I be if I lied about it?): I think the movie was a little jumbled. I mean this by; there were tons of great ideas, but little "plot glue" holding it together. I just think maybe a little tweaking that would maybe make the plot clearer could greatly benefit the re-shoot.
 4/25/2007 4:12:21 AM
BillZebub
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Re: The Worst Horror Movie Ever Made may be re-shot
If we had shot everything that was in the script then there would have been plenty of cohesiveness, but we gave ourselves only 6 weeks to write, shoot, and edit the movie.  I was crazy to attempt that.  We shot a lot of those scenes in subzero weather, and I got confused about what was shot and what was not because the ink in my pen forze and I couldn't mark off my shotlist, lol.  I just sent an Email to my regular staff and they're pretty supportive of the idea. 
 4/27/2007 12:38:41 PM
BillZebub
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Re: The Worst Horror Movie Ever Made may be re-shot
Well, it looks like filming will start pretty soon.  I might need some extras, even some new faces for speaking parts.  If you are in New Jersey, or able to get here, let me know if you're interested.  Send pics/resume to Bill Zebub PO Box 1987 Clifton NJ 07011
 4/30/2007 11:36:44 PM
DeadAlive
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Re: The Worst Horror Movie Ever Made may be re-shot
That's be sweetm, but I'm probably too young and getting there might be difficult too. Ah, the dissapointments of being underage
 5/2/2007 7:58:30 PM
BillZebub
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Re: The Worst Horror Movie Ever Made may be re-shot
I've been having a lot of fun re-writing the script for this movie.  One of the things that we did in the original version was having the same 13 people play multiple roles.  It was not a good idea.  It just goes to show you that some ideas are only funny on paper.  I'm trying to raise the offensiveness a little because this movie sort of begs for that kind of flavor.  One scene-  the scene with Jesus masturbating through the hole in his hand, wasn't done properly.  (Well, that can be said about most of the scenes in this movie).  So I am going to take special care to make that scene funny.  There are probably only a couple of things from the original that I liked - I liked when Rocco tied the umbilical cords of two babies and swung them around, calling them "Young-chucks." 
 5/4/2007 10:47:43 PM
Stormcloud
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Re: The Worst Horror Movie Ever Made may be re-shot
No offense, but if you remake this movie get a different girl for the main character.
 6/16/2007 6:29:55 AM
millertyme
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Re: The Worst Horror Movie Ever Made may be re-shot
    I'd really love to see this movie re-shot.  Please do it.  I thought it was all in all an entertaining movie but it definitely had a host of flaws.  There is a lot of things that a person like me (one who enjoys low/no budget films) can excuse in a film, there are however some things that can't be excused.  Things that can be excused are pretty much obvious, stuff like bad acting, plot holes, fake looking effects, ugly women, shit like that.  Large spots of boring shit are really not OK to have in a film.  The more recent shit of yours that i've seen doesn't have this so I think you've more or less got a handle on it.  Another example of Shit that can't be excused is consistently not funny joke attempts....if a movie is trying to be funny and just keeps missing the mark over and over it's not ok.  Now this is probably going to be taken the wrong way so I'll clarify.  I like Bills brand of comedy.  I like the kind of comedy in his films, the "offensive" stuff, the stupid shit, just the whole style and everything it entails.  I also got the fact that the movie was supposed to be "bad" I thought that idea was funny.  I'm also a huge fan of low budget horror movies and horror/comedy shit.  I actually think that when watching BIll Zebub movies being a really big low budget movie fan can at times be a hinderance.  The Bill Zebub movies I've seen are considerably more amatureish than most of the shit of the same "ilk" if you will (aside from the utterly unwatchable shit like the shit brain damage films puts out and the other straight to video companies that put out shit that has a real problem with the first thing that can't be excused that I mentioned).  I think that the fact that this was an earlier film of yours was really the main reason why it left so much to be desired.  You had too little experience at the time to make the movie as great as it could have been.  I could definately see the potential of the movie while watching it.  It was littered with tastes of greatness but it just couldn't seem to take off.
 6/16/2007 2:34:07 PM
BillZebub
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Re: The Worst Horror Movie Ever Made may be re-shot
Ha!  The first attempt was really an impossible attempt.  I thought it would be an interesting thing to give myself only 6 weeks to write, shoot, and edit a movie.  Being that it was called THE WORST horror - I thought there was really no pressure.  There were many mistakes in strategy, like:  I remember hating movies that made it look like they were exploitation but there was either no nudity whatsoever, or the girls who were naked were ugly pigs.  For some reason I thought that would be a good idea to re-create.  What I didn't realize is that it's not funny to do something that is irritating.  I felt angry when I bought movies like that.  Hwo can I expect people to laugh at that when they buy MY movie (and I am doing the same irritating thing). What a stupid idea it was for me to have a girl with fake tits -seriously - her tits were a $5 totally fake plastic cover that you buy at costume shops.  Someone should have kicked my ass for coming up with that idea.  And then there is the problem of Rocco's lisp and his gay speech rhythm.  I'm not saying that the jokes were genius, but his gay way of talking flubbed so many potentially-funny lines.  Btu it was a leanring experience.  I learned that he can't speak in any other style than gay, so I only wrote gay parts for him afterwards, like the gay poser in BAD ACID and the douche character in ASSMONSTER. 

Some of the people in the movie were amazingly resilient, like George the Slayer.  We shot him during a blizzard - he was lying on the snow with no shirt.  And Jeanne, Rocco, George, and I shot in subzero weather almost the entire 5 weeks (1 week of post production).  So it's not like they (the actors) didn't care.  It's just that we didn't know the movie was going to actually sell any copies, heh heh.

As for plot holes, there are no plot holes in the script, but we left out a lot of stuff from the script, which was another bad mistake.  Duh. Why shoot a movie with half of the plot points missing?  Why?  Because I am an idiot.  So I am making the full version this time (and yes, there will be plenty of T&A).

Strangely enough, some people went bananas over this title.  But most of the people who saw it could only stomach a few choice moments.  Oh well.  I'm only human and sometimes retarded).  At least I can accept responsibility for mistakes and learn from them.  And I am thankful to fans of my other movies who did not hesitate to point out what they hated.  I learn much more from criticism than I do from praise.
 6/17/2007 4:11:37 PM
BillZebub
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Re: The Worst Horror Movie Ever Made may be re-shot
King Dylan, you wrote that you don't knwo anythign about film-making as if that disqualifies you for an opinion.  That is not the case.  You didn't study film, but you knew that there was something about shot-on-video horror that looks bad.  You may not have known the exact details why video is bad, but you knew that the format didn't work. 

Even if someone studies film it doesn't mean that the person has good comprehension.  You were able to follow the subplots of Dirtbags while people who claimed to have vast knowledge of film couldn't detect a plot.  That was the #1 criticism. "This film has no plot."  I usually don't rebuke critics unless they get personal, or unless I am drunk and in the mood for trouble.  But I do try to figure out why they wrote what they did.  Sometimes the critic gets offended and that skews the whole review.  Occasionally there is a critic who has a Bill Cosby type of black friend, and when he sees the Kapeesh character (a white guy in blackface) the war begins.  Sometimes a person takes the blasphemy-humor the wrong way.  There are also critics who either got beaten up by metalheads or who grew up despising them, so the music and the metla characters are an instant turn-off.  So again, there are many people who claim superior knowledge to you, but they review my movies like a wounded bitch.

There are also people who have no education in film, but they have fooled themselves into thinking that they are authorities.  I met one such person recently.  I didn't want to think of him as a bag of hot air because I met him socially, and I also thought I could learn something from him.  But the guy NEVER read anything about how to write a screen play, and he has no idea what the common 3-act-structure is.  But that doesn't stop him from blabbing about plot.  He also has neurotic dislike of certain techniques.  He doesn't understand that this is based on mental illness, not his movie knowledge.  He is one of the people who write pages of drivel on review sites.  No, he hasn't reviewed any of my movies.

You won't become like him because you admitted to yourself (and to people who read your post) that you are not an authority.  That means that you are open to learning.  The aforementioned people think that they are experts, so they feel no need to learn, or to question themselves.  Some people on here have written their honest opinions - opinions that aren't flattering.  I like reading those opinions because I learn from them.  You've seen a few of my movies so your opinion counts more.  It's not the same as hearing something negative from a mainstream person who just watches blockbusters.

Recently I seem to have riled people from the bondage community.  I am making a movie called BREAKING HER WILL, and I was getting data from these sexually aberrant people.  THey thought I was asking their opinions in order to find out how to make a great bondage movie, but i was doing the opposite.  I was finding out what breaks them out of arousal.  For instance, they would jerk off if they saw a girl  who is tied up and moaning, but if she wore a leather mask so that you couldn't see her face, they would not want to watch it.  They would become angry.  So after I got all the info I needed I thanked them for showing me how to safeguard the movie so that it is not going to be embraced by the bondage crowd, and they didn't like reading that.  They have no interest in an extreme drama, but I want to make a very twisted horror movie.  It's going to be very graphic, but I didn't want it to be considered pornographic.  Myabe I should have found a more diplomatic way to let those people know that I was using them as lab rats.
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