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 4/28/2007 3:00:37 AM
BillZebub
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Grindhouse
 Modified By BillZebub on 4/28/2007 2:06:17 AM)
I chose to watch this movie in an off time and stayed away on opening weekend.  Such a precaution isn't really necessary for a movie like this because audience participation, as long as it isn't stupid, is part of the experience. 

The first movie of the double feature was very enjoyable.  There were a coupe of things that I misperceived, but when I found out the truth I kind of laughed.  I had mistaken a few mexican actors/actresses as Hindus.  There was a mexican scientist who spoke in an English accent - I am told that this mistake was understandable (isn't that the way ghandi people talk?).  There are also two girls, twins I believe, whom I thought were Indians.  I'm not saying that as a complaint about the movie.  I just thought it was funny.

I'm new to the whole notion of zombies, or zombie-like stuff.  I talked to Bill, the #1 ghoul from Night of the Living Dead.  (I have never seen any of these movies). He told me that the movie was considered a zombie flick, but the creatures were never called zombies.  I had always considered a zombie to be a corpse that was animated by a necromancer, but that's because I'm a horror reader, not a horror movie guy. So the first zombie movie I ever saw was Shaun of the Dead.  Apparently there was some humor in that that only a zombie fan would appreciate, but I, as a zombie virgin, found the movie to be quite entertaining nonetheless.

Anyway, as I mentioned before, I like the movie that Robert Rodriguez made.  I don't want to give anything away, so I will just leave it at that.  The fake trailers between the two movies were also amusing.  But the Tarantino (spelling?) movie was unwatchable.  Maybe I am a fool or maybe the movie is to be enjoyed only by people who have secret knowledge, but to my uninitiated ears the dialogue was unbearable.  I kept repeating mantra over and over - "Please let this dialogue end, please let this dialogue end, please let this dialogue end."  It finally ended, to be replaced with even more ridiculous banter.  But this time, I hated the new characters even more than before (the other characters were killed, and I don't care that I spoiled it for you because I am doing you a favor by warning you).  As brutal as it sounds for me to tell you this, there seemed to be some kind of multicultural proaganda, or multicultural twilight zone humor.  There was a character who was some sort of female negro goon, utterly hideous, and she was talking about how her boyfrined cheated on her because all she would do is to hold hands with him (her reasoning is that he can have any woman he wants, so if she withholds sex he will not think of her as another whore = and notice that I spelled the word correctly.  I didn't spell it in the phonetic negro "ho" style)  Actually, I was biting back bile at the thought of anyone having sex with her at all.  She wore her hair in the most insipid 1950's style and acted like a Brady Bunch character.  I was suffering so badly throughout the ridiculous dialogue that I had to leave or I would cry.  I can't imagine any kind of payoff being worth having to endure another second of that mental torture.  For days I was dreaming of Terantino and that hideous actress being glued together and forced to listen to nonsense while they slowly starved to death.  But even that would not be suitable payment for the damage they have done to me.  I had head that when Grindhous becomes available on DVD, the two movies will be separate.  Good.  I plan to buy the Robert Rodriguez movie and to stay far away from Tarantino's rotten egg.  The reason why I am posting this is because I want to know if I am being a jackass.  If there is something that I do not understand, please enlighten me.  You see, I have witnessed people who criticized things out of ignorance, and I don't want to be an asshole.  If i am ignorant please enlighten me so I can re-visit my path of thinking and maybe find peace.  But until then, I am going to walk the earth like a zombie, my brain eaten by the curse of having watched a bad movie.
 4/28/2007 4:52:33 AM
DeadAlive
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Re: Grindhouse
I haven't seen this yet because I'm reluctant to get raped by the ticket prices at the theater, but I've been dissapointed by reviews.Death Proof looked so much better than Planet Terror, and now all I hear is that it's the other way around and that Death Proof was a peice of shit. This is dissapointing to say the least.
 4/29/2007 2:35:00 PM
Stormcloud
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Re: Grindhouse
Ha.  That's brutal.  I don't think I ever walked out on a movie. 
 5/1/2007 2:21:33 PM
roy
44 posts


Re: Grindhouse
Yeah, planet terror was definately awesome as fuck, and pretty damn good as far as a zombie movie goes. I would watch this movie again and again, with lots of beer. On the other hand, there could not be enough beer drinkage in the world to make me see death proof again. I do agree with the pointless banter of the dialogue, and found myself sitting in the theater utterly bored at some points. The only saving grace of this one is the awesome cars, rose mcgowens sweet ass and the fucking car chase at the end. But the 2nd film sucked overall I think. I only stayed cause the fucking $8 for the ticket I paid. Now if they replaced the dialogue scenes with more car chases or more zombies, then you would have a movie.
 5/2/2007 8:03:44 PM
BillZebub
221 posts
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Re: Grindhouse
Ha!  I thought Tarantino fans would verbally destroy me for what I posted.  My honet words were not written out of disrespect.  I was really angry when I watched that stinker.  But I still respect the man for his past gems.
 5/2/2007 10:31:00 PM
DeadAlive
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Re: Grindhouse
Tarantino isn't as untouchable as everybody makes him out to be. In my honest opinion, he has made 2 great films, 2 good movies and a sub-par movie. The two great ones being way back in 1992/1994. Recent Tarantino has only been okay, but everybody supports anything he does and calls it revolutionary based solely on the lasting popularity of Reservoir Dogs/Pulp Fiction. Because of this Tarantino has been able to get mediocre pictures greenlighted like Kill Bill (vol. 1, # 2 was better). It's of no suprise that Death Proof was no good.
 5/3/2007 5:16:35 AM
Booger
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Re: Grindhouse
Those KILLBILL movies were stupid.  I was talking to somebody about his stupid car movie and I found out that MR. T is a hack!  He stole ideas from movies that he thought fans would never see.  That's what I just heard.  This movie freak I know said that the whole thing about the radio contest and that poem was stolen from an old car movie.  What a letdown.
 5/23/2007 2:11:14 PM
BillZebub
221 posts
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Re: Grindhouse
I just got the movie "FOUR ROOMS" yesterday.  I had seen it a long time ago on cable.  Well, after the bad taste left by Tarantino's nigger and spic movie (lol), I wanted to watch something from the earlier days.  I don't know if FOUR ROOMS is out of print, but it was out of stock everywhere and I had to resort to Amazon.com - which is cool because I bought the import version (I have a DVD player that plays PAL and NTFS).  I think the movie is actually four directors who each contributed a "chapter" so-to-speak.  Well, whatever the case may be, the chapter that had Tarantino in it was really bold in a lot of ways.  For instance, there is a point-of-view shot (the camera is the eyes of the character) in which Tarantino's character walks over.  Tarantino's eyes look off camera, which confused me because I thought the point of view shot was from a perticular character's point of view, and I didn't see anyone to the side of the character prior to the shot.  But Tarantino suddenly rights himself and talks to the camera.  Now here's the mindfuck - there are times in this scene when the point-of-view camera stops being point of view.  What I mean is, you're looking at the TV screen and what you see is supposed to be what a particular character sees.  You are his eyes.  The camera then shifts attention to another part of the room.  You're still assuming that this is what the character sees, but all of a sudden, the character whose perception (sight) you are donning strolls into frame?  What?  It's almost like an out of body experience.  Holy shit!  That is WEIRD!  Anyway, due to the fact that I have watched this several times in my life, and also because I was watching this sort of to regain hope in Tarantino, I was watching the movie like a student.  Bear in mind that every other time I watched it I was lost in the movie (I don't like to watch a movie like a student - I like to be affected by a movie and lose all sense of self).  As I watched in this "student" fram of mind, I noticed something that escaped me all of the other times I saw it.  Tarantino did some massively long shots - I mean, REALLY REALLY REALLY long duration, but it didn't feel like it.  It's the opposite of the MTV video - MTV videos tend to have a shitload of clips, each being a couple of seconds.  Man, in the last chapter of FOUR ROOMS, that camera did not cut!  It was amazing.  There you have a master.  If youwatch it for the first time, just enjoy it.  But after a few viewings, watch how there are certain parts in which the camera does not cut.  It pans and shifts focus here and there, but it's all one stream. 

Bottom line: I rediscovered my respect for Tarantino.  I still hate his last movie, but I hate the movie, not the man. 
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